o Vikas O’Reilly-Shah (MPOG Pediatric Subcommittee Vice-Chair, Seattle Children’s): Do
we need an explicit reason for exclusion, or can we simply identify and exclude cases
with no analgesia administered?
o Nirav Shah (MPOG Quality Director): This idea of excluding cases with no opioid
administered is a very elegant solution to a problem we have been trying to solve on the
adult side and on the pediatric side where it is almost impossible to have an exhaustive
list of procedures we want to exclude. This relies more on clinician judgement whether
the patient is a candidate for multimodal analgesia or not. We routinely get feedback to
exclude specific procedures, and this is a elegant way around it. As part of validation
process, we can look at cases that were excluded and we can make a list of cases we
may want to include. I do want to comment on the MIPS measure. The measure was
built differently and does take a subset of cases they include and require 2 non-opioid
analgesics. We have a much broader pool of cases. MIPS is narrower. From adult
literature, only multimodal we know is safe is acetaminophen, and in some cases
magnesium, lidocaine, ketamine, gabapentanoids. However, you can also find a reason
not to give it for certain case types. Unless we narrow down the exclusion criteria to
have more than one. Could cause issues with behavior that we don’t want. One thing we
could do over time especially as we get into looking at specific case - spine surgery
specifically and maybe that is when we can identify specific case types with more than 1
multimodal.
● Lisa Einhorn (Duke University): I personally agree with you. As this
becomes more specific to identify more intense surgery types, a sub
measure could be added to ensure more than 1 multimodal is used in
those specific cases. Not necessarily appropriate to require two across
the wide spectrum of cases performed in pediatrics but there are cases
where 2 multimodal medications would be appropriate. Wide range of
practice often based on clinician judgement.
● Brad Taicher (MPOG Pediatric Subcommittee Chair, Duke): I love the
idea of excluding it. If you didn’t receive any pain medications or if you
are not giving opioids, it doesn’t make sense to require non-opioids. For
MRI it does not matter what the CPT code is, it is a non-clean solution to
exclude all.
o RJ Ramamurthi (Lucile Packard Children's via chat): I hope you are capturing pre-op
medications too?
■ Brad Taicher (Duke): If the circulator documents it, it should be included.
■ Nirav Shah (MPOG QI Director): Over the last few years, we have worked with
sites to include medications given in pre-op holding and in the PACU. If you are
finding that those are not captured, please let us know. Local administered by
surgeon should be captured as well.
o Mo Esfahanian (Lucile Packard Children's via chat): Not to be facetious, but it’s in the
name - multi means more than one. Otherwise, it’d be monomodal
o Wes Templeton (Wake Forest): Considerations in terms of age group? 11,000 cases that
were flagged, any representation of age groups?
■ Lisa Einhorn (Duke): Preterm neonates had the lowest compliance with this
measure. I don’t know if it represents thoughtfulness of pain medication in this
age group. Tylenol is appropriate in this age group for most patients.